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Some time ago I evaluated an experimental shot crusher from Stuart Crane at Clay Shooting Magazine in the UK. The crusher is basically a heavy steel dowel centered in a guide tube over a steel plate. The dowel is raised to a witness mark, a pellet is placed underneath the point of impact, and the dowel is released to fall 3″ and impact on the pellet. The motive power is pure gravity. The crusher is built of heavy steel and will last a millennium or two. The crusher was thoughtfully accompanied by a .0001″ digital micrometer.
Use of the device was simplicity itself (just as well). The micrometer is first used to measure the original diameter of the pellet. The pellet is then crushed and a new measurement taken on the “flats” of the crushed pellet. The “after” measurement is divided by the “before” measurement and subtracted from 1 to produce a percentage “crush” value. This level of mathematics is basic enough even for the Technoid to deal with.
In actual use, things were not quite as easy as they looked. Most shotgun pellets are not round, so two or three initial measurements and some averaging were required for most pellets before crushing. Measuring the flats after was easy. Due to the initial lack of roundness, the results are approximate, but probably pretty good anyway.
Here is what the surgically clean test laboratories produced on their first test batch. Seven examples of each pellet were tested. A lower percentage means less crush distortion and thus a harder pellet.
#8 Lawrence Magnum bagged shot 26%
#8 Remington Gun Club factory 30%
#8 Federal Xtra-Lite factory 31%
#8 Peruvian Magnum bagged shot 35%
#8 Victory 480 factory 41%
#7.5 Lawrence Magnum bagged shot 25%
#7.5 Remington STS factory 27%
#7.5 Victory 480 factory 30%
#7.5 Peruvian Magnum bagged shot 34%
What does this all prove? Not much yet. Cursory pattern tests have shown that the #7.5 Remington STS and Victory 480s pattern just about exactly the same (and very nicely, thank you), while reloads using the #7.5 Peruvian Magnum bagged shot had noticeably inferior patterns containing an average of 12% fewer pellet strikes. The crush tests of the #7.5s indicate that the Victory’s are in between the STS and Peruvian loads in hardness, but pattern quality does not reflect this. The Victorys produce excellent patterns, right in there with the benchmark STS shells. Perhaps Victory’s use of a superior powder or a clever wad design makes up for the difference in shot softness. Obviously, more experiments are in order, especially with the #8 sizes. Anyone want to volunteer to conduct some more tests? I thought so. Then you will just have to wait.
I am considering the purchase of a 3.5 inch pump shotgun. I have been trying to find review information on the above 2 guns without any success. I have the manufacturers catalogs. I am looking for some objective comments, or information. Any information you could provide would be helpful.
In the spirit of the Securities Act of 1933 for full disclosure of all material facts, I have not owned either or handled either the Remington Wingmaster Supermag or the Mossberg 835 UltraMag extensively. Having established my high level of ignorance, I still have an opinion.
I don’t think you will go wrong with either one. The basic design of a pump action shotgun is relatively simple and robust. The likelihood of you wearing either of the guns out is small. You will probably wear out your shoulder and back before anything breaks on one of these guns.
The advantage of the Remington is that it has been around forever. No, not forever, but a very long time. Parts and accessories are abundant. The design is has not significantly changed since its introduction in 1950. That in itself it testament to solid design and manufacturing. The Mossberg has also been around a long time, though I don’t think it is as long in the tooth as the Remington. I’m not really sure about parts and accessories. Also a solid design.
Both these things are anvil tough. Maybe more like hammer tough. When was the last time you broke a hammer?
Selection between the two will be more on the subjective elements such as looks and feel and quite possibly price. Always remember the cost of a shotgun is a small fraction of total shotgun ownership cost when ammunition and targets are factored in.
The recoil from either gun is (ahem) stout when shooting heavy target loads, and can be expected to clear your sinuses (sneeze, cough) if you are shooting 3.5 inch shells. Shooting overhead shots as one would do at waterfowl magnifies the felt recoil as your body doesn’t move as much when shooting horizontally.
Good luck in your eventual choice. When I have used pump guns I really enjoyed the action. There is a rhythm to using a pump gun that is very pleasing. For many in the heat of a hunt, the second shot from a pump gun tends to be more accurate than the second shot from a semi-auto because working the action on a pump tends to bring the muzzle back down.
Roland Leong, Managing Editor
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