Move, Mount And Shoot

Hi Bruce..

I was reading the book by Bruce Bowlen,The Orvis Wingshooting Guide, I think im a bit off on the title. In any case,,the style of shooting he is suggesting, English method…seems difficult. He says you combine the mount and swing into one action? This seems to be a difficult technique,,maybe because I havent tried it? I would like to know,,do you use this English method of Wingshooting?



Dear Robert,

Yes, I normally teach the move, mount and shoot method. This is more of a mounting method, not a lead method. How you lead a bird is another subject. Move, mount and shoot was popularized in a book/video by John Bidwell, but it has been the standard CPSA (Clay Pigeon Shooting Association- England) method for years.

The book you refer to, “The Orvis Wing-Shooting Handbook” by Bruce Bowlen is a classic. I think it’s the best short book on wingshooting and recommend it highly.

Here’s a good way to try the Move, Mount and Shoot method. It’s the way I coach newer shooters and it seems to work well for most of them:

1) Skeet field, station One, the bird is coming from the low house towards the shooter.

2) The gun is started with the gun butt under the armpit and pushed back about one inch.

3) The muzzle of the gun is started about five feet to the left of the opening of the low house.

4) When the bird comes out, the shooter places the muzzle of the gun on the bird and follows it with the muzzle on the bird until it gets almost to the center stake. The gun butt remains under the armpit.

5) When the bird almost reaches the center stake, the gun stock can be raised to the face and the target shot.

6) It is important to take the shot the moment after the gun stock touches the cheek. Do not ride the bird.

This bird from low house one gives the new shooter plenty of time, but the technique is the same on any target. When there isn’t as much time (such as on a low Six or high Two), you just don’t track the bird as long with the gun butt under the armpit. Other than that, the move is the same.

Although I’m using a skeet analogy, this method really is most suitable for sporting clays. If you are serious about competitive American-style skeet, premount the gun and sustain lead the targets like everyone else does.

The key to this method of shooting is putting the muzzle on or near the bird for a little bit before raising the gun stock to the face. This assures an adequate gun speed that closely matches that of the bird. I constantly hear comments that this method “slows” the bird down too.

As to leading methods, if you insert the barrel just behind the bird, you will swing through. On the bird (my preferred method for most shots), you will pull away. Just in front of the bird and you will sustain lead the bird. But all lead systems can be started using the Move, Mount and Shoot method.

Once you start shooting this way, you’ll find that it is one of the most natural and easies methods of shooting many types of targets. I don’t pretend that it is the best method for all types of targets, but it works surprisingly well for a majority of them.

There it is. Clear as mud, right? Just remember, the name is Move, Mount and Shoot, not Move, Mount and Miss.

Best regards,

Bruce Buck
The Technoid writing for Shotgun Report, LLC
(Often in error. Never in doubt.)

This entry was posted in Shotgun related. Bookmark the permalink.

One Response to Move, Mount And Shoot

  1. Dan says:

    And as a post script to the journey…You have to trust everything is in position for a successful shot X…Your first move is your best move! Learn to trust it!


Leave a Comment

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: Logo

You are commenting using your account. Log Out /  Change )

Google+ photo

You are commenting using your Google+ account. Log Out /  Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out /  Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out /  Change )


Connecting to %s

This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.